Seeking information about ICE (India) Under RTI Act-2005

The Central Public Information Officer, All India council for technical education, 7th floor, Chanderlok building Janpath, New Delhi-110001. & Dr. Suresh Chand (CPIO) Deputy Registrar (Copyright Office) Special officer (BP & ISBN) Department of Higher Education, Ministry of Human Resource Development, 4th floor, (Room No:13), Jeevan Deep Building, Parliament Street, New Delhi 110001

Dear sir,
I have one quarry about institution of civil engineers india . in this connection I filed a RTI to AICTE and MHRD both but no reply given by both dept inspite of many reminder. It is requested to fwd my RTI Quarry to AICTE and MHRD at your end please .
I shall be highly thankful to u for this act of kindness.

To,
The Central Public Information Officer,
All India council for technical education,
7th floor, Chanderlok building
Janpath, New Delhi-110001.
&
Dr. Suresh Chand (CPIO)
Deputy Registrar (Copyright Office)
Special officer (BP & ISBN)
Department of Higher Education,
Ministry of Human Resource Development,
4th floor, (Room No:13), Jeevan Deep Building,
Parliament Street,
New Delhi 110001

Sub: Seeking Information under the Right to Information Act, 2005.

Dear Sir,

Kindly provide the information & documents regarding Associate Membership & Technician Membership offered by Institution of civil engineers (India), “Career House” Bindra Complex, Model Town, Ludhiana (Punjab) (www.iceindia.org) under RTI Act 2005 with respect to following question :-

1 Is the membership offered by “Institution of civil engineers (India), Ludhiana (Punjab)”(i.e. Associate Membership & Technician Membership are subsequently equivalent to degree in engineering and 3 year diploma in engineering.
2 Is the membership offered by “Institution of civil engineers (India), Ludhiana (Punjab)”(i.e. Associate Membership & Technician Membership are subsequently equivalent to associate membership & technical membership of Institution of Engineers (India) 8, Gokhley Road Kolkata 700020 (www.ieiindia.org).
3 Is any person having Associate Membership & Technician Membership of “Institution of civil engineers (India), Ludhiana (Punjab)” is eligible for the post of Assistant Engineer and Junior Engineer subsequently in central govt jobs.
4 Is the syllabus of associate membership exam Section A & Section B & technical membership exam Part ‘I’ and part ‘II’ conducted by “Institution of civil engineers (India), Ludhiana (Punjab)” () are approved by All India council for technical education (AICTE) New Delhi?
5 Is the same course approved by ministry of Human Resources development?
6 If Yes, please provide documents issued by your office to “Institution of civil engineers (India), Ludhiana (Punjab)” for offering Associate Membership Examination (Section A & Section B) & Technician Membership Examination (Part I & Part II) & upto what period.
7 Can “Institution of civil engineers (India), Ludhiana (Punjab)”take new admissions for Associate Membership Examination (Section A & Section B) & Technician Membership Examination (Part I & Part II).

52 Responses to Seeking information about ICE (India) Under RTI Act-2005

  1. Anand - RTI Anonymous Team Member says:

    Moving this to the Drafted RTI Category

  2. kaykay0710 says:

    sorry sir, i don’t understand. i think this is already in drafted RTI category. Please reply

    • Anand - RTI Anonymous Team Member says:

      I agree this is a well drafted RTI.
      By default, every new request comes under the category of unprocessed. People like us review these requests and accordingly put them into different categories (Drafted/Unclear/Non -RTI request etc.)
      What i meant here was i am moving this to the Drafted RTI Category, so that our volunteers can now just take a printout of this and file the RTI.

      • SANDEEP - RTI Anonymous Team Member says:

        Hi KayKAy,
        You said, you had already filed this RTI but no reply.
        Can you please provide below detail:
        1. Did you sent RTI via SPEEDpost/regi?
        I yes, please provide Date and TrackId of speed post/Reg.

        Because if the PIO, to which you sent your RTI is correct then, need not file the same RTI to them again. this has to go to next level i.e. Appellate authority .
        Please provide the above details, so that further action can be taken.

        ANAND Ji: am i correct here ?

  3. kaykay0710 says:

    sir, kindly suggest me that further what i have to do in this connection.

    • Anand - RTI Anonymous Team Member says:

      Nothing for now!We will be filing this RTI in our names and once we get the documents from the govt. department, we will upload this document on this website and you will get an email to inform about the same.
      You can then download it from this website

  4. kaykay0710 says:

    thank u sir! thanks a lot.

  5. SANDEEP - RTI Anonymous Team Member says:

    Hi KayKAy,
    You said, you had already filed this RTI but no reply.
    Can you please provide below detail:
    1. Did you sent RTI via SPEEDpost/regi?
    I yes, please provide Date and TrackId of speed post/Reg.

    Because if the PIO, to which you sent your RTI is correct then, need not file the same RTI to them again. this has to go to next level i.e. Appellate authority .
    Please provide the above details, so that further action can be taken.

    ANAND Ji: am i correct here ?………..

  6. kaykay0710 says:

    Dear sandeep ji i had filled RTI about more than one and half year ago but erroneously i have lost the record of speed post no. but i have a copy of IPO no of the same.

  7. kaykay0710 says:

    Dear sir,
    kindly intimate the present position of my quarry, weather it has forwarded or not.
    Waiting for your reply please.
    Thanks!

  8. laddu says:

    सर मै ये आरटीआई फाईल करना चाहता हू कृपया मुझे कुछ सुझाव दे की मुझे उसके लिए क्या करना होगा

  9. laddu says:

    maine is rti ko print kara liya hai,
    filed karne baaad rply karunga

    • Anand Sharma says:

      Thank You very much Sir
      Aap file karne ke baad, speed post number ke consignment numbe/tracking number daal deejiye
      Isse , jo original requestor hain, woh apne RTI request ki track kar sakthe hain

  10. laddu says:

    plz send this filed rti
    i have post this
    and speed post no.-EI277611905IN

  11. Anand Sharma says:

    Moved this to Filed RTI Category

  12. laddu says:


    plzzz suggest me what should i do

  13. Sky Walker -- RTI Anonymous Team Member says:

    They have done the right thing..

    In any central govt. department the RTI application fee is onyl Rs 10/-

    It is not advisable to send extra fee in anticipation of getting some photocopies of document..

    Only after the decision of providing the requested information they will communicate the extra fee if any.

    Re-file the same RTI application with fee of rs 10.

  14. Sky Walker -- RTI Anonymous Team Member says:

    1) Provide me with copy of documents/records/orders/any communication ( including email, fax, minutes of discussion) that suggests the Associate membership offered by ICE equivalent to Degree in Engineering.

    2) Provide me with copy of documents/records/orders/any communication ( including email, fax, minutes of discussion) that suggests the Technician membership offered by ICE equivalent to Diploma in Engineering.

    3) Provide me with copy of documents/records/orders/any communication ( including email, fax, minutes of discussion) that suggests the Associate memberships offered by ICE equivalent to Associate membership offered by IEI ( Institute of Engineering India ).

    4) Provide me with copy of documents/records/orders/any communication ( including email, fax, minutes of discussion) that suggests the Technician memberships offered by ICE equivalent to Technician membership offered by IEI ( Institute of Engineering India ).

    5) Provide me with copy of documents/records/orders/any communication ( including email, fax, minutes of discussion) that suggests the eligibility criteria to be met for the post of Assistant Engineer and Junior Engineer in central government jobs.

    6) Provide me with copy of documents/records/orders/any communication ( including email, fax, minutes of discussion) that suggests the central government job that can be applied for with the Associate membership (ICE) & Technician Membership (ICE) as qualification.

    7) Provide me with copy of NOC / approval letter/ any order / any communication issued by AICTE that allows/approves the IEC to follow the present syllabus for associate membership exam section A & B.

    8) Provide me with copy of NOC / approval letter/ any order / any communication issued by AICTE that allows/approves the IEC to follow the present syllabus for technician membership exam Part I & II.

    9) Provide me with copy of rules & regulation / orders / documents / any communication that instructs the procedure to new admission for Associate Membership(ICE) and Technician Membership(ICE).

    10) Please inform me the details of the Appellate authority.

  15. Sky Walker -- RTI Anonymous Team Member says:

    I have re-structured the RTI Application…

    pls give consideration to the points that i have modified. Instead of posing a question to PIO, we are now asking for copy of document..

    Please let me know your suggestions..

  16. kaykay0710 says:

    I can not understand the mentality of AICTE officials. What is the problem if We send two IPO of Rs 10/- each, if they don’t need one extra IPO than they can return one IPO in lieu of to return the application, it clearly indicate that they are not interested to supply the information.

  17. kaykay0710 says:

    now we have no another option that re-submitted the application alongwith one IPO of Rs 10/- duly addressed to account officer AICTE New delhi.

  18. laddu says:

    OK after 1 & 2 days i will again post this with the rs.-10 IPO

  19. kaykay0710 says:

    while re-submitting this RTI pls remember to write the address of account officer AICTE on IPO.Otherwise they have one more reason to return the RTI again un-actioned.

  20. Sky Walker -- RTI Anonymous Team Member says:

    AO, AICTE, New Delhi..

    This will do..

    Or just leave it blank..

    AS them to fill

  21. laddu says:

    मै अभी अपने घर पर हू और यहाँ पर पोस्ट ऑफिस में पोस्टल आर्डर नही मिल रहा है इसलिए मुझे कुछ वक्त लगेगा उसे दोबारा भेजने में,

  22. kaykay0710 says:

    mr laddu…….hw r u….i think u forget to resubmitted the rti…………..if u will not do so our all efforts become waste. So pls try to resubmitted the rti again

  23. laddu says:

    i remember this, under 2 days i will filed this application.

  24. laddu says:

    क्या मुझे वो वाली आरटीआई पोस्ट करनी है जो sky walker जी redraft कि है??

  25. laddu says:


    सर इससे पहले मैंने इस प्रकार से IPO में लिखा था अब इस IPO का क्या उपयोग है?? और मेरे पास इससे पहले भेजी हुई application भी उपलब्ध है, कृपया जल्दी प्रत्त्युत्तर भेजे.

  26. kaykay0710 says:

    १. आपने ipo मै पता गलत लिखा है……..मेरे विचार से इसका पता AO AICTE NEW DELHI होना चाहिय !मेरे विचार से इस ipo का अब कोई उपयोग नहीं रह गया है.
    २. यदि आप इस rti को redraft कर सकते हों (जैसे की स्क्य वालकर जी नै रेद्राफ्ट की है ) तो बेहतर रहेगा

  27. laddu says:

    kaykay0710 जी मुझे rti redraft करना ठीक से नही आता, अगर मेरी कोई सहायता कर सके तो बेहतर है,

  28. laddu says:

    या फिर मै sky walker जी कि redrafted rti को भेज दू?

  29. kaykay0710 says:

    Sir kindly find the attached file.I have redrafted this rti as drafted by sky walker..

  30. kaykay0710 says:

    Sir kindly find the attached file.I have redrafted this rti as drafted by sky walker..
    File: rtiapplication1ICE.doc

  31. laddu says:

    in this application what is the meaning of Proof of Identity (Photo copy)
    plz give a fast rply

  32. kaykay0710 says:

    Rti कानून सिर्फ भारतीया नागरिकों के लिए है . इसलिए rti के लिया आवेदन करने वाला भारतीया नागरिक ही है इसका आवेदक को सबूत देना होगा . इसके लिए आप driving licence pan card, voter id etc…की कॉपी दे सकते है .

  33. laddu says:

    i have sent this application again with help of ACPIO.

  34. laddu says:

    this is receipt of postal order

  35. laddu says:

    i have received a reply with the cpio information is not available

  36. laddu says:

    any one here to see these documents,

    • Anand Sharma says:

      Laddu,
      This does send an automatic email to the original requestor. I wish the original requestor replies back on whether he has got what he wanted or not

  37. laddu says:

    @rti anonymous- shayad jisne ye information maangi thi use iski jaroorat nh hai,approx 2 months completed bt original requester did not reply

  38. Ankit says:

    @Laddu, he must have got an e-mail, he must have seen these document.Thanx for the effort :)

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